Tiger Fight, October 19, through the "Nation", the former Spanish national team coach Bosque had a dialogue with the former national team captain Cassie. Cassie said: "Before you choose De Gea, you should say something to me, I It really makes me feel uncomfortable to think that I have won this five-minute conversation time and suddenly be told that I can't play."
Bosque: "I think you are in good shape. How do you feel? How are Sara and the children?"
Cassie: "I'm fine, coach. After (heart attack) a year and a half, I am looking for the same Cassie. The air and land in Portugal are very good, and Sara is also very good. go to school."
Bo: "I'm very excited to chat with you. We have worked together for many years. You came to Real Madrid in 1990 and were promoted to the first team in 1999."
Card: "I was less than 9 years old. I ran a test in September, we played a game, and then I was told that the club would play torneo social in January 1991, and the names of the teams at that time were A team of players. The coach at the time, Antonio Mesquita, made the qualifiers for the Meudon Championship in Paris. We ended up losing to Benfica on a penalty kick. It all started from there. You know Real Madrid better than I did. As a club, it was not as great as it is now, but Real Madrid was a big family at that time."
Bo: "Then you understand the poverty situation at that time. At that time, the sports city lacked various facilities, the Barde Bebas base, the Galaxy battleship..."
Card: "Now telling any kid that we used to play on such a venue, they would not believe it. Now everyone is playing on artificial turf and other conditions... Everything is getting better. , Are evolving, and this is also for the children to have better conditions. Of course I have you in the memory of the previous sports city, as well as Mr. Di Stefano and Camacho. When Juanito died I was in fantil Team A, I will not forget my previous experience. I may forget my daily life, but I will not forget my childhood. I am fighting for it."
卡德：“现在告诉任何一个孩子，我们曾经在这样的场地上玩耍，他们不会相信。现在每个人都在人造草皮和其他条件下玩耍……一切都在变好。，正在不断发展，这也是为了让孩子们拥有更好的条件，当然，我也要怀念以前的运动城市以及Di Stefano先生和Camacho先生。当Juanito去世时，我是Fantil A队的成员亚搏手机登录主页，我不会忘记以前的经历。也许会忘记我的日常生活，但我不会忘记我的童年。我正在为此而奋斗。”
Bo: "You are very lucky. It is also a good thing not to forget your previous experience. Children need to have dreams..."
Card: "This is what the boys need to know. A player winning a Champions League or a World Cup is not the most real thing. I am very lucky. You must be good enough, you must have luck, and I am sure I have luck at the moment. Even you don’t even like me a few times in the echelon..."
Bo: "We didn't want you to be promoted to an older echelon but didn't play. From my standpoint, it is good to be conservative, but you should also have breaks like you, Guti and Raul. The logical process...At that time, it was time to take risks with players who are talented to play higher-level games. We have taken a step forward. Don't be too demanding..."
Card: "I have nothing to complain about. Let me tell you that when I was training with teammates who were three or four years older than me, I also felt shy."
Bo: "The contribution of the family is still to be brought up. Your father brought you here every day. It was silent attention. They were silently protecting you. I feel like I have never spoken to your father. "
Card: "This is something that people can't see. They will see everything I have won, but they won't see my father driving me from Mostores to training for 8 years. I don't want to say it very much. Arrogant, but all the coaches told my father that I was good and that I would become a goalkeeper of Real Madrid. He knew that I was good, but at the same time he didn’t want me to be influenced. He was very strict, maybe because of him It’s the relationship of the National Guard. He keeps me down to earth. I have always grown up with praise."
Bo: "In the 21 years we have worked together, there have been all situations, many very wonderful things, but I want to naturally talk about those bad things, one of which is the 2001-02 season, when we chose to use the plug When Thrall..."
Card: "That's when Hierro and you won me (laughs)..."
Bo: "No, no... it's not true."
Card: "Coach, don't be so serious, I'm just kidding...but not only that season, I didn't play in the last few months of the previous season..."
Bo: "2000-2001 season? Then who played?"
Card: "César, we won the league championship at the time, and then in the 2001-02 season I encountered this again...I have to meet something every year (laughs)..."
Bo: "I think the good thing about bad things is that we broke the situation where you played so many games in a row. There are still positive aspects. I think... I am not apologizing... We are sitting here. Come to do this."
Card: "No, no, coach, I think what I am most grateful for is the competition I encountered at the time, but not only from the first team, but also from the echelon. I have a very good relationship with Cesar. It was very important for us to compete together before, but he was also quite annoying, I told him (laughs)."
Bo: "The four years at Real Madrid were great."
Card: "We have won nine championships in four years."
Bo: "Let's talk about the national team. You are an extremely important person. Relying on saves helped us win all that."
Card: "That is a very difficult result to reproduce, and we are part of it. We did not expect such a wonderful result at the time. But we do have a very good team, a great team. "
Bo: "We broke the spell of the previous national team and got a very good winning state."
Card: "We reversed this situation ourselves. At that time, we all respected other national teams very much. We went from being afraid of our opponents to being afraid of us. When they competed with us, they knew that they might play funny. ."
Bo: "In the middle of your career, you encountered a difficult situation. You encountered a coach (Mourinho) that caused some Real Madrid fans to criticize you. For any Real Madrid fan, a person like It is very painful for a guy like you to be criticized by some Real Madrid fans. For me, it is incredible and very painful."
Card: "That's just a small group of young Real Madrid fans who like to make trouble. I didn't understand it at the time. Compared to thinking of most of the other fans who applauded me and were proud of me... Over time I learned about the criticism at the time. Those of mine may still criticize me now, but others still admire you and love me more because of what happened before. If I look back, I have no reason to ask for forgiveness. All this is over. After what I experienced a year and a half ago, I have regarded that previous experience as an anecdote."
Bo: "For the decision we made in 2016 not to let you play in the European Cup, do you think it is good or bad?"
Card: "Your face has become too serious, coach.... Let's talk about this later where there is no camera, hahaha."
Bo: "No, let's talk now, the three goalkeepers of the national team are all very good."
Card: "I want to mention Valdes and Reina in particular. I played more and enjoyed more at the time. Their attitude and practice towards me was very good. Valdes is an introverted child and he will gradually trust you , Dedication is full marks."
Bo: "In 2014, we still chose the same group of people because you were in the best shape at the time. During the halftime against the Netherlands, you rarely spoke up to help the team's morale. ."
Card: "I couldn't accept that we couldn't have such an ending, it was too cruel for our generation of players, losing two games and waiting there for four days, and then playing the third game."
Bo: "Your performance in those four days is a role model, because you know how to accept failure."
Card: "It's a role model, but the strangest thing is to lose the first two games."
Bo: "In 2016, when the whole world demanded changes, we made the decision to give De Gea a position with the most respect for you. This is entirely a competitive decision. Whether this decision is made right or not is a difficult decision for you, me and everyone."
Card: "Yes, it's difficult. I remember talking to you, Mignano and Tony Grande (member of Bosque’s coaching staff). I don’t know if I’m wrong, and I’ve always been kind Speaking of this, I think sometimes we should communicate with the players. Say to him:'Hey, Iker, this is the situation now.' Yes, we are all the same, but
Bo: "Maybe this is because I always do things in the way of making decisions without explaining. If you explain, you will fall into a false conversation. And we always deal with it the way we have to do it. Impossible... What do you want me to tell you? You won't play for this reason...for that reason? Impossible."
Card: "We as players are egoistic when playing football. We always think about ourselves. This is a team sport, but you will think about your own problems.
Bo: "I understand that it was very difficult and painful for us at that time. But we made the decision from a purely competitive perspective. The same was true for our decision to use Cesar at Real Madrid. We did not have anything against you. Meaning. On the contrary, if I have a preference, it will be the youth players above all else."
Card: "The best thing is that after experiencing some misunderstandings or noise, we communicated again."
Bo: "I remember that you didn't play in Real Madrid for a while, but you were always able to receive our call. You said a word to me at the time. I will never forget this sentence. You said:'Coach, You can rely on me, even three goals, I want to continue to play for the national team'. You were with us until the last minute. At least we did not let you lose any squad."
Card: "I don't have any complaints. I will look at this matter now. I will look at this matter at the age of 39 in 4 years. I look at it from a different angle."
Bo: "You really have an impressive resume. You have never been an ordinary player in the team. You have always been a very important member of our team. You have contributed to winning for us. The performance of the trophy."
Card: "I don't know if I have been hit by a magic wand or if I have enough abilities. But since I started playing football, I knew I was going to be promoted to the first team, and I knew I was going to be great. Achievements. Of course it’s easy to say that now, but I had such expectations at first, and at first I felt that this would happen."
Bo: "Some people say that everything that happens has a positive side."
Card: "This is the most I have heard. After everything I have experienced, the most important thing now is health. I must be grateful that the illness was on the court. The doctor handled it quickly and I was unscathed. I recovered. I’m now 99% better. I look at things differently. I don’t feel sad or depressed like I did before.”
Bo: "What else must we talk about?"
Card: "More? No, we have already talked about you cleaning me in the national team and Real Madrid..."
Bo: "It's short-lived, and we have to take care of others..."
Card: "The first year you replaced me, I said:'Well, it's good for me, I'm 20 years old, so I can learn something'. In the second year you did this to me again, I said: "Well, this is...this has become a routine, I have to find a solution by myself...""
Bo: "I'm not very irritable or superstitious. I know to listen to other people's opinions. Your players should be the inspiration for the coach, but there must be a degree. This degree needs to be clear by the coach himself. That is a limit, tell Coach how we play like this, how we play like that... It’s not the same thing. Some things may be good for the players, but it’s never a player that must play. It’s not such a thing. It’s intolerable."
Card: "Seriously, we did have a very good time. If I had to choose a period, I chose 1999-2003. At that time I enjoyed everything. The four years with you were the beginning of my career. But that was the time I enjoyed the most."
Bo: "You forgot to be the president of the Spanish Football Association."
Card: "No, no, but the timing was wrong at that time."
Bo: "There is one thing we didn't talk about, Real Madrid and Barcelona's gunpowder match in 2011, that period of hostility between the players we want to repair in the national team..."
Card: "We did not expect that the four games would be arranged so tightly. The games were very important at the time. Those four games marked Spanish football and everything around us. The political implications were very strong. If Barcelona wins, then It's as if Catalan is above Madrid."
Bo: "But in the national team we have never had a disagreement between clubs, nothing happened because you were born in Madrid or because you were born in Catalonia."
Card: "No, but
Bo: "But we got out of the predicament unscathed. It's a fact. After that, both you and Harvey's intervention played a decisive role in this issue."
Card: "Of course, we had to find a way at the time, we had to make the national team calm again. We were already a little crazy..."
Bo: "This matter is personally harmful to you. It is developing in a direction that shouldn't have happened. According to the meaning of your representatives, you should handle it better, but you were not able to do it at the time."
Card: "We really should be proud of repairing the relationship. Otherwise we won't get everything we won afterwards. If we don't solve the previous things, then we won't be able to win the 2012 European Cup."
Bo: "I think the locker room is poisoned by outside influences, not from inside."
Bo: "I didn't stand on the team at the time, I was completely neutral. I didn't blame anyone on the team. I can boast that we never paid attention to the color of the club jerseys for recruiting players, and we never cared where the players were born. Yes. This is very helpful to us. I have almost never heard about politics in the national team, maybe you have, but in front of me it is very rare."
Card: "That's because you didn't stay with Pique at night, otherwise...we would all be crazy."
Bo: "If you want to talk about Pique, he played 114 games with us. During this period, we have a good relationship with him in every way. Besides, he is for the team. People. He paid for the national team. We have not had any problems with him, nor with anyone else."
Card: "Pique is a good guy. It's true. He has never had a problem with anyone. Besides, in that locker room, if someone did something at a certain moment, we Will quickly come forward to calm the emotions."
Bo: "Thank you for everything, Iker."
Card: "This is my honour. I have already met you as a youth coach, coach, and national team coach, and now I am communicating with you in your "Nation" column."
Bo: "Don't you want to be a coach?"
Card: "No, I don't have the composure and the patience. I gave everyone an image of a good boy, but I grew up in the locker room. I think I am more useful in training players. Cultivation Those younger children, those just starting out. It’s a bit like the role you played in the sports city when you were 30. We were training at that time and you were behind me. I will take the license test to learn more. Because I like football. I will try my best to persuade the children and tell them what they can achieve with hard work. At the same time, I hope they can understand that it is impossible to do it on the first day. This requires a process, and you Will suffer a lot."